Milon DE NOYERS, VIII, Seigneur de Noyers[1]

Male - Aft 1272


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  • Name Milon DE NOYERS 
    Suffix VIII, Seigneur de Noyers 
    Gender Male 
    Died Aft Feb 1272  [1
    Person ID I70836  Blythe Genealogy
    Last Modified 1 Aug 2019 

    Father Milon, VII, Sire de Noyers,   b. Aft Abt 1186,   d. Bef 1234  (Age < 47 years) 
    Mother Agnes, de Brienne,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married Bef 1234  [1
    Family ID F23572  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 DES BARRES,   d. Abt 1250 
    Married Bef 1238  [1
    Notes 
    • Records not imported into FAM (family) Gramps ID F52866:

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    Children 
     1. Marguerite DE NOYERS,   d. Aft 1310
    Last Modified 20 Jan 2020 
    Family ID F29730  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Alixende,   d. Aft Feb 1272  [1
    Married Bef 1272  [1
    Children 
     1. Milon DE NOYERS, IX, Seigneur de Noyers,   d. 1291
     2. Marie DE NOYERS,   d. Aft 1278
     3. Agnes DE NOYERS,   d. Aft 1303
     4. Jean DE NOYERS,   d. Aft 1331
     5. Alix DE NOYERS, nun at Auxerre St. Julien,   d. Aft Jul 1292
    Last Modified 20 Jan 2020 
    Family ID F29731  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • MILON [VIII] de Noyers (-after Feb1272).  Seigneur de Noyers.  "Milo dominus Noyeriorum" founded the abbey of Marcilly, in the presenceof "Maria uxor eius", by charter dated 1239[358].  A charter dated “la vegile de Pasques” [Mar/Apr]1251 (O.S.?) records the settlement between “Guillaume deBorbon sires de Beçay” and “Miles sires de Noyers” of their disputeconcerning debts which “mes sires de Noyers demandoit par lou bail Jahannet,lou fils mon seignor Odom des Barres...par chief de sa feme qui suer geormaignefu au devant dit Odom”, while “mes sires Guillaume de Borbon” hadmarried “la mère dou dist Jahannet, dont il ha dousa nfanz[359].  A charter dated Jul 1260 records an agreement between “Milonseigneur de Noiers” and “Jahannat des Barres” regarding the samematter[360]. “Mille seigneur de Noyers et Alixant sa femme”founded masses at Noyers Notre-Dame, with the consent of “Mille et Jehan deNoyers ses fils”, by charter dated Jun 1263[361].  “Miles chevaliers sires de Noiers et…Elissenz fame a celuiMile dame de Noiers”, in light of the negotiations for the marriage of “nostre…fill’ainz né Mile de Noiers chevaliers” and “Marie de Créci nièce à…Jehande Chasteillon conte de Blois et seigneur d’Avenes et à…Erart évesqued’Aucuerre”, emancipated “nos deux fiz…Mile desuz diz et Jehan le moinsné” and divided their territories between them, bycharter dated Feb 1271 (O.S.)[362]m firstly (before 1238) --- des Barres,daughter of PIERRE des Barres & his wife Elisabeth [de Champlitte](-[1250]).  Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the charter dated 1238under which [her mother] “Elisabeth dame d’Antignyet de Meursault” donated revenue from property at Meursault to the abbey ofla Bussière, with the consent of “Philippe d’Antigny son mari...[et] par sesenfants Gui et Alyxant dame de Noyers et par sa fille Flore qu’elle a eu duditPhilippe[363]. The charter dated [Mar/Apr] 1251 quoted below refers to her in the past tense,indicating that she was deceased at the time.  As her husband emancipated hissons in 1272 (see below), it is unlikely that they were older than 18/20 yearsat the time, which suggests that they could not have been born from --- desBarres whose death can probably be estimated to [1250].  A charter dated“la vegile de Pasques” [Mar/Apr] 1251 (O.S.?) recordsthe settlement between “Guillaume de Borbon sires de Beçay” and “Milessires de Noyers” of their dispute concerning debts which “mes sires deNoyers demandoit par lou bail Jahannet, lou fils mon seignor Odom desBarres...par chief de sa feme qui suer geormaigne fu au devant dit Odom”,while “mes sires Guillaume de Borbon” had married “la mère dou distJahannet, dont il ha dousa nfanz[364]m secondly ALIXENDE, daughter of --- (-after Feb 1272).  “Miles chevaliers sires de Noiers et…Elissenz fame a celui Miledame de Noiers”, in light of the negotiations for the marriage of “nostre…fill’ainz né Mile de Noiers chevaliers” and “Marie de Créci nièce à…Jehande Chasteillon conte de Blois et seigneur d’Avenes et à…Erart évesqued’Aucuerre”, emancipated “nos deux fiz…Mile desuz diz et Jehan le moinsné” and divided their territories between them, bycharter dated Feb 1271 (O.S.)[365].  The primary source which confirms her family origin has not beenidentified.  Petit calls her “Alixant d’Etampes” without citing thesource on which he bases this information[366].  Milon [VIII] & his [first/second]wife had one child.
      [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#_Toc494798453]

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  • Sources 
    1. [S582] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (Reliability: 2).

    2. [S582] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy.