Robert ARSIC, II, of Coges[1, 2]

Male 1200 - 1230  (~ 60 years)


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  • Name Robert ARSIC 
    Suffix II, of Coges 
    Born Between 1170 and 1200  Cogges, Witney, Oxfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died 31 Jan 1230 
    Person ID I9581  Blythe Genealogy wo Details
    Last Modified 26 Sep 2019 

    Father Alexander, d'Arsic, of Coges,   b. Between 1140 and 1169, Cogges, Witney, Oxfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 26 Dec 1201  (Age ~ 61 years) 
    Mother Emma, de Sulegni,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married Aft 1199  [2
    Family ID F4894  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Sibilla DE CREVEQUER,   d. Yes, date unknown  [1, 2
    Married Bef 1230  [2
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    Children 
     1. Joan DE ARÇIC,   b. Abt 1200, Cogges, Witney, Oxfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1241  (Age ~ 42 years)
     2. Alexandra, d'Arsic,   d. 1267
    Last Modified 16 Feb 2020 
    Family ID F4893  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • ROBERT ARSIC II of Coges, etc., son of ALEXANDER and N. N. D. bef. 31 Jan., 1230. M. SIBILLA,
      dau. of ROBERT DE CREVEQUER and N. perh. Maminot. Robert had inherited Coges by 1205. In 1216 he
      sided with the barons against King John at Rochester.
      [Ancestry of Donald Macomber, Ethel Jaynes Macomber, and Harriet Seaver Macomber]

      The aforementioned Robert de Ar9ic, Baron of Coges, in 13 Job e paid
      twenty pounds, five shillings, for twenty Knights fees, and a Iburth part :
      but being with William de Albini, Thomas de Muleton, and other of the rebellious Barons, in the cattle of Rochester,'' was there taken prisoner, in
      17 Joh. and committed to the custody of Peter de Mauley, and his lands in
      Oxfordshire were seized into the King's hands, ' and disposed of for the
      maintenance of the castle of Oxford However, on that accord, between
      King Henry and those Barons, in the first year of his reign, he had restitution
      of his la: (is ; and afterwards continued firm in his obedience to the said
      King In 13 Hen II I '^ when the scutage of Wales was levied, he had his
      discharge for twenty Knights fees, and a fifth part, which he then held. He died soon after, for in 14 Hen. III. ' Joan, the wife of Eustace de GreinviU,
      and Alexandria, the wife of Thomas de Haye, were found to be daughters
      and heirs to him, and his great inheritance. But on the death of the said Sir
      Eustace (without issue by her, as may be presumed] Joan, his widow, and
      Thomas de Haye, with Alexandria his wife, passed away all their interest
      and right in the barony of Coges before-mentioned, and all the inheritance
      descended to them,'" from Robert de .irfic their father, unto Walter Grey,
      Archbiihop of York. What were their inducements or agreements with the
      Archbishop, for this conveyance to him, are not mentioned; but in " 29 andi
      30 Hen. Ill he gave the said inheritance (mentioned to be of their gift) to
      his brother Robert de Grey, i' and to his son Walter de Grey ; viz. the lordship
      of Rutherfeld (now called Rotherfeild) in com Oxon with the advowson
      gf the church; together witii a grant of all his manors, land, &c. in Eilesford,
      &c. in Kent; Brightlielmeston, in Sussex, Coges, tjomerton, Feringeford,
      Herdewyke, Stanlake, Baggeringe, Corwelle, and Leye, in com. Oxon';
      Shobinton, East Cleydon, and Botil Cleydon, in com. Buck Wynterburnc,
      in com Berks ; Durston, in com. Northamp. Upton, Stillingflcte, Moreby,
      Drynhous, Seulcotes, and Ketlewell, in com. Ebor.

      As the estate of the Barons Argic was passed into another
      family, by Joan, the widow of the said Sir Eustace Greinvill, and
      her sister, it is very probable he left no issue by her : yet he had
      a son, named Gerard ; for, in the eighth of John, an assize 8
      issued to know, whether Robert de Greinville, father of Ralph,
      was seized in his demesnes, of three parts of one Knight's fee,
      with the appurtenances, in Stanburn in Essex, which Gerard de
      Greinville holds, whose father was Eustace, &c. But he dying
      without issue, I now come to treat of Robert's two sons, Geiard,
      and Robert de Greinville.
      [Collins's Peerage of England Genealogical, Historical and Biographical, Vol. II]

      -- MERGED NOTE ------------

      ROBERT ARSIC II of Coges, etc., son of ALEXANder and N. N. D. bef. 3 1 Jan., 1230. M. SIBILLA,
      dau. of ROBERT de CREVEQUER and N. perh. Maminot. Robert had inherite d Coges by 1205. In 1216 he
      sided with the barons against King John at Rochester.

  • Sources 
    1. [S6003] Collins's Peerage of England Genealogical, Historical and Biographical; Vol VII (Reliability: 2).

    2. [S5940] Ancestry of Donald Macomber, Ethel Jaynes Macomber, and Harriet Seaver Macomber (Reliability: 2).

    3. [S6003] Collins's Peerage of England Genealogical, Historical and Biographical; Vol VII.