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Genealogy Transcription: Trial of William Thorne, Elizabeth Kay for theft.


 

Following is my transcription of “Court Minutes of New Amsterdam.”  Trial of William Thorne, Elizabeth Kay for theft.

 

At a Court of the W. Commissioners Jacob Kip and Sieur Guilain Verplanck holden at the City Hall of the City N: Orange, on the 7th April AD 1674.

Court Proceedings New Amsterdam 1653-1674 Thorne William for theft.
Court Proceedings New Amsterdam 1653-1674: Trial of William Thorne and Elizabeth Kay for theft; page 72.

Trial of William Thorne and Elizabeth Kay for theft.

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WILLIAM THORNE being apprehended and accused of theft committed by him etc., being brought this day in Court the following interrogatories are proposed to him.

1. How old are you ; what is your name and where were you born?

Court Proceedings New Amsterdam 1653-1674: Trial of William Thorne and Elizabeth Kay for theft.
Court Proceedings New Amsterdam 1653-1674: Trial of William Thorne and Elizabeth Kay for theft; page 73.

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1. William Thorne, borne in Dorsetshire in old England ; about 42 years of age.

2. Does he not acknowledge having made the hole into the loft.   2. Denies having made any holes into the loft, but says he was not at home ; also that the loft was so rotten and leaky that the peas and grain frequently fell on the people’s heads, where they sat.

3. If he did not take in sacks the grain that fell through the loft?   3. Denies having taken any grain, but says he heard, that the woman put the grain in a sack, which fell through the loft on the ground.

4. Did he not know it or was he not accessory to it?   4. Denies all even the least knowledge, either directly or indirectly, thereof.

5. Wherefore then did he not give information of the corn, when it fell thro’?   5. Says he was not at home when the corn fell thro’ the loft, and that he spoke of the corn as soon as he knew of it.

6. Why did he deny that he had in the house any grain but his own?   6. Says, he stated that of his knowledge he had no other grain than his own in the house.

7. How much grain had he of his own in the house ; And from whom did he receive it?   7. 1 skepel from F. de Bruyn; 1 skepel from S. van Vleck; 1 skepel from P. Groenendyk; 1 skepel from a soldier; 3 skepels from Hans Kierstede, and that he cannot now recollect from whom he had other corn.

8. Where had he left the white and grey peas, which were on the left?    8. Says, he had no other than a few peas of his own, but that C. van Borssum had peas taken every morning for two months successively from the loft for his hogs by his negro and servant.

9. Where did he leave Paulus Richard’s shirts?   9. Denies knowning anything in the least of them except that Paulus Richard’s maid came to him one morning after a very windy night, and asked him, if a childs shirt had not been blown on to his place, whereupon he, William Thorne, answered the maid, he knew nothing of it.

10. Is he married; to whom and where?   10. Is married and his wife and child are at Boston.

11. What then has he to do with another woman in the house?   11. Says, she is his sister in law and that he took her into the house, because she had no other shelter and was away from her friends.

Court Proceedings New Amsterdam 1653-1674 Thorne William for theft.
Court Proceedings New Amsterdam 1653-1674: Trial of William Thorne and Elizabeth Kay for theft; page 74.

Court Proceedings New Amsterdam 1653-1674: Trial of William Thorne and Elizabeth Kay for theft;

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Interrogatories for Elizabeth Kay, apprehended for theft.

1. What is her name, age and place of birth:    1. Elizabeth Kay, 37 years old, born in England.

2. Did she not make the hole in the ceiling or enlarge it?   2. No, but the loft was rotten and not tight.

3. Did she not secrete in a sack the gran, that came through the loft?   3. The grain fell of itself on her bed, when she took it with a pan and put it in a bag in the corner; but admits her fault, that she did not immediately make it know and submits to the punishment, which the W. Court shall lay on her but prays forgiveness.

4. When did William Thorne nail the timber against the loft?   4. She says, that she herself nailed the boards against the loft and that she stopped the holes with rags and often warned Corn. van Borssum, when the peas lay there.

5. When did she tell William Thorne of the grain?   5. Not until the Schout took him, Thorne, out of the house.

6. Has she a husband and where?   6. Yes, she has a husband at Boston, being a barber and she says, she left there, because it was more economical to come; her husband’s hand shakes, so that he cannot follow his trade; she says also, that William Thorne is innocent and has no knowledge of the matter, etc.

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