Sorry for the large gap. I’m in the process of doing some experimental performance of this site which has demanded much of my attention in the past couple of weeks. Finally, though, here are the FamilySearch.org and Ancestry.com Updates and Additions to October 14, 2014.
FamilySearch.org Updates and Additions
FamilySearch.org and Ancestry.com Updates and Additions.
Sir William ap Thomas Herbert, (21st great grandfather to my children) was born about 1390 to Sir Thomas ap Gwilyn (1360-1438) and Maud de Morley (1375- ).
Sir William ap Thomas first married Elizabeth (or Isabel) Bluet (1380-1420), daughter of Sir John Bluet of Raglan Manor and Katherine Wogan, and widow of Sir James Berkeley. Elizabeth inherited Raglan Castle while married to to James Berkeley, who later died in about 1405. There were no children born to William and Elizabeth.
Sir William ap Thomas – Battle of Agincourt in 1415.
William fought in support of Henry V of England alongside Sir Roger Vaughan, first husband of his later wife Gwladus ferch Dafydd Gam and her father Dafydd Gam ap Llewelyn in the battle of Agincourt. Both Sir Roger and Dafydd Gam died in battle and Dafydd Gam was knighted as he lay dying. Sir William was made a knight-banneret.
In 1426, William was knighted by King Henry VI, and was known as “Y marchog glas o Went” (the blue knight of Gwent), because of the colour of his armour.
When Sir John Bloet died, Raglan Manor was inherited by Elizabeth and her husband James Berkeley. Upon Elizabeth’s death in 1420, William lived at Raglan as a tenant of his step-son James, Lord Berkeley. In 1425, James Berkely granted William the right to live at Raglan Manor for the remainder of his life.
In the earliest of his many occupations, William was made Steward of the Lordship of Abergavenny by 1421. At about this time, he married secondly the daughter of Dafydd Gam and the widow of Sir Roger Vaughan, Gwladys ferch Dafydd Gam, who was known as ‘Seren y fenni’ (Star of Abergavenny). The exact date of Gwladus’ birth is unknown, but she was born in Breconshire, Wales. She was renowned for her beauty, discretion and influence.
Her father supported Henry IV of England and as a result, she, her father, grandfather and two brothers were driven from their last home in Wales, finding refuge at King Henry IV’s court, where Gwladus served as a Maid of Honor to both of Henry IV’s wives, Mary de Bohun (about 1368-1394) and Joan (about 1370-1437).
After her marriage to Sir Roger Vaughan, she returned to Wales with her family as Roger was a great friend of her father’s and would later fight and die with him at Agincourt. Roger and Gwlady’s children were:
Watkin (Walter) Vaughan, who died 1456, married Elinor, daughter of Sir Henry Wogan, on Easter 1456. Watkin was murdered at home at Bredwardine Castle. His half-brother William Herbert and Walter Devereux worked to ensure the execution of the culprits at Hereford.
Thomas Vaughan, born about 1400, married Ellen Gethin, daughter of Cadwgan ap Dafydd. In 1461, Thomas died at the battle of Edgecote and was entombed at Kington church, near Hergest.
Sir Roger Vaughan of Tretower Court married first to Cicely, daughter of Thomas ap Philip Vychan, of Talgarth and second to Lady Margaret, daughter of Lord James Audley, another of the heroes of Agincourt. He died in 1471.
Elizabeth Vaughan married gentleman Griffith ap Eineon.
Blanch Vaughan married John Milwater, a wealthy Englishman commissioned by Edward IV to accompany Blanch’s half-brother, William Herbert, to the siege of Harlech Castle.
William ap Thomas and Gwladus had the following children:
Thomas Herbert, born in 1422.
Sir William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke (1423–1469), who took the surname Herbert. William’s support for and loyalty to Richard, Duke of York, and Richard Neville, 16th Earl of Warwick, resulted in his being recognized as Edward IV’s Welsh “master-lock”. He was the first full-blooded Welshman to enter the English peerage and he was knighted in 1452. William married Anne Devereux in 1449. She was the daughter of Sir Walter Devereux.
Sir Richard Herbert, born about 1424, of Coldbrook House, near Abergavenny who died in the battle of Danesmoor.
Elizabeth, born about 1427, married Sir Henry Stradling (1423–1476), son of Sir Edward Stradling and Gwenllian Berkerolles. In contrast to previous generation, Henry and his brothers-in-law were hostile to the Henry VI reign. In 1476, Henry went on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land dying on August 31, 1476 on his journey back to England. He was buried at Famagusta, Cyprus.
Margaret, born about 1429, married Sir Henry Wogan, Steward and Treasurer of the Earldom of Pembroke. He was made responsible for securing war material for the defence of Pembroke Castle. Their son, Sir John Wogan, was killed in battle at Banbury in 1465, fighting along side his uncle, William Herbert.
Other children that have been attributed to Gwladus and William include: Maud, Olivia, Elizabeth (who married Welsh country gentlemen, John ab Gwilym).
Gwladus and William raised their own children as well as those from her marriage to Sir Roger Vaughan.
By 1432 William was able to purchase Raglan Manor for about £667 and afterward, he expanded the manor to become Raglan Castle.
Sir William was appointed to the position of High Sheriff of Cardiganshire and Carmarthenshire in 1435, and in 1440, also to the position of High Sheriff of Glamorgan. About 1442 or 1443, William became Chief Steward of the estates of Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York. He also served as a member of the Duke of York’s military council.
Tomb with Effigies of Roger Vaughan and Gwladus ferch Dafydd Gam.
William ap Thomas died in London in 1445 and his body was brought back to Wales. William’s wife, Gwladys, died in 1454. Gwladys and her husband William ap Thomas were patrons of Abergavenny Priory where they were both buried and their alabaster tomb and effigies can still be seen in the Priory.
The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdon, Extant, Extinct or Dormant (G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I.).
John Burke, History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland (1834-1838).
Pursuing Genealogy was never free. The family tree research costs manifested in very different ways over time.
Tombstone of Rose Melanson tombstone – just one of the finds from my family tree research.
We’re so lucky today because global resources are so easy to access over the internet through sites such as familysearch.org, Ancestry.com and many others, and most sites do charge either a subscription rate or a cost per item rate, or both.
Although we tend to think Genealogy was free in the past, that is not true. Before the implementation of the internet, it was much more difficult to pursue genealogy – and much more costly. One had to either physically visit the location of the records sought, or pay another to conduct the search (and pay to cover incidental costs such as printing, copying, etc.)
In my family’s case, our family tree research branches widely around the globe prior to 1900, but especially prior to 1850.
Around 1900 is when my husband’s mother’s family, the Gummesons, emigrated from Sweden to the United States and it’s when my father’s Turmaine ancestors were living in Ontario and Quebec, and my mother’s Melanson ancestors were living in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, all in Canada.
Passenger list showing Thomas, Charles and Robert Blythe.
The ancestors of my husband’s father were particularly mobile prior to 1857, when his great grandfather Charles George Blythe emigrated from Lincolnshire, England to the United States wtih his father and one brother.
Much further into the past is the Welsh migration of my husband’s ancestors in the 18th century and the Acadian settlement of Atlantic Canada of my own ancestors in the 17th century.
Costs of research prior to the internet for me to research my mother’s Acadian ancestry in Atlantic Canada.
First, here is an outline of the costs of traveling there to do my own family tree research during our driving tour of the area about 7 years ago. This is an estimated breakdown of the expenses of our two week trip from Ontario. Although there were four of us on this trip, I will show the costs if it were only one person (approximately $1800 – $2,650) here:
Gasoline: $700 – $1000
Campsites: $450 – $700 (hotels would be much more)
Food, etc.: $200 – $300
Entry Fees (museums, tours, etc.): $150
Production costs (printing, photocopying, books, materials, etc.): $300 – $500
Costs of hiring a local researcher to conduct the family tree research on site and in person.
I will be basing this estimate on the time and expenses for each individual item researched while we were there (estimated total of $925).
Moncton University of Monctonof: 2 hours totaling $60
Books: 2 totaling $100
Photocopies: 100 totaling $10
Ste. Anne University: 2 hours totaling $60
Books: 1 totaling $30
Photocopies: 50 totaling $10
Ste. Anne Catholic Church: 4 hours totaling $120
Grand Pré Museum: 1 hour totaling $30
Digital Photos: 30 totaling $30
Books: 1 totaling $20
Pictures: 4 totaling $25
Fort Edward: 1 hour totaling $30
Digital Photos: 10 totaling $10
Fort Beausejour: 1 hour totaling $30
Digital Photos: 60 totaling $60
Melanson Settlement: 1 hour totaling $30
Digital Photos: 20 totaling $20
New Brunswick Archives: 4 hours totaling $120
Photocopies: 200 totaling $20
Nova Scotia Archives: 4 hours totaling $120
Photocopies: 200 totaling $20
Costs today to obtain most of the information and items as above using the internet and online genealogy resources for family tree research.
I have not been able to find some of the information online to this date. The estimated total using the internet is $415.
Ste. Anne Catholic Church (not available online): 4 hours totaling $120
New Brunswick Archives: Free
Nova Scotia Archives: Free
Moncton University of Moncton: Free
Ancestry.ca annual subscription: $120
Acadian GenWeb Sites: Free
Books, etc. (same as above): $175
Irreplaceable benefits of traveling to do my own family tree research in person and on site.
Fort Beauséjour ruins: foundations in the foreground and the still-standing supply tunnel in the background.
I love the ease and low cost of the resources available online for family tree research. However, I must say that there was no experience like personally visiting the historical sites, museums, universities and libraries during our trip to the research location, despite the expense incurred. Had we not traveled to the sites, we would have missed a great deal that I found so enjoyable and valuable, including:
seeing Fort Edward and Fort Beausejour, the scenes of the imprisonment of my ancestors during the Acadian expulsion;
seeing the Melanson Settlement heritage site, the town of Melanson, and Melanson Mountain, heritage sites of my Melanson ancestors;
our wonderful bonus of finding the missing ‘aboiteau’ (dike used for draining the marshes for farmland during the Acadian settlement) at North Hill Museum and getting pictures; and
consulting with the staff at Moncton Museum, Ste. Anne Museum, North Hill Museum, Fort Beausejour, Fort Edward, Port Royal, Fort Anne, and the Grand Pré Museum.
An Aboiteau in storage at North Hills Museum.
Most of all, a lot of the places we did end up visiting were not planned. Some of the sites we came upon accidentally after speaking with locals and site staff, some we learned about from the local newspapers, and some we came upon accidentally during our travels. The graveyard at Ste. Anne Catholic Church is one example of an accidental find, where we took numerous photos of gravestones; and the North Hill Museum where we found the aboiteau is another.
The interior courtyard of the fort at Port Royal.
Two sites in particular that proved to be particularly enjoyable were Fort Anne’s Graveyard Tour (you can see a photo of my kids listening to the presentation in the revolving images on this site) and Port Royal. The tour guide at Fort Anne was Alan Melanson and his brother was one of the guides at Port Royal. They turned out to be our Melanson kin, descending from two brothers who were sons of the original Huguenot immigrant Pierre ‘dit Laverdure’ Melanson.
We enjoyed the experience so much, we now discuss the possibility (more of a pipe dream) of traveling to Great Britain and Europe to conduct research into our British and Welsh ancestors, and the original French ancestors of the Huguenots who emigrated to Acadia.
The bottom line.
I find the convenience and lower cost of researching via the internet has a hidden cost, that of missing out on personally experiencing the sites, history and unexpected finds of conducting on-site family tree research.
Although not a direct ancestor of my husband, Marshall Mark (Mark) Blythe or our children, Isaac Shelby is of great interest to us for a couple of reasons. First, he was renowned for and distinguished himself for his actions in battle against United Empire Loyalists in Canada in the War of 1812, ultimately defeating Loyalist forces at the Battle of the Thames in southern Ontario. We are also related to and are descended from Loyalists who settled in this area. For a lengthy period of time, we lived in Trenton, Ontario which is located in the area of Loyalist activities and battles against American forces. This area is steeped in this history and it is still considered to be an honor to be from a Loyalist lineage.
Marshall Matthews Blythe
Portrait of Isaac Shelby, Governor of Kentucky.
Second, because Isaac Shelby is so revered in history, there are accurate portraits of him during the latter period of his life available. Upon comparing portraits of him with recent pictures of my father-in-law, Marshall Matthews Blythe (father to my husband Mark and grand-father to my children Erin and Stuart), the resemblance between them is quite remarkable. For clarification, Isaac is first cousin six times removed to my father-in-law.
Isaac Shelby (December 11, 1750 – July 18, 1826) was a revered and decorated soldier and the first Governor of Kentucky.
The son of Brigadier General Evan and Letitia (Cox) Shelby, Isaac was born December 11, 1750 near North Mountain, Frederick (now Washington) County, Maryland.
Having been raised with the use of arms, he became proficient at an early age and was very familiar with and accustomed to the hardships and stresses of frontier life. Isaac worked on his father’s plantation. However, having received an education, he was occasionally employed as a surveyor and also as Deputy Sheriff.
About 1773, the Shelby family moved to the Holston region of Southwest Virginia, now East Tennessee, where they established a new home. A timeline of Isaac Shelby’s military and political career thereafter is as follows:
Isaac Shelby served at the Battle of Point Pleasant as a Lieutenant under his father, Brigadier General Evan Shelby, in the Fincastle Company on October 10.
Second in command of the garrison of Fort Blair (until July 1775), which was built on the site of the battle. An uprising of the Shawnee and Delaware Indians compelled Isaac to take up arms and he served as a Lieutenant under his father Brigadier Evan Shelby in the Battle of Point Pleasant in West Virginia.
He fought in the Battle of Kenhawa of 10 October. This was believed to be the most severely contested campaign ever fought with the north-western Indians.
After July of 1775, he visited Kentucky and surveyed lands for the Transylvania Company.
After returning to Kentucky due to failing health, he became involved in the Battle of Long Island Flats.
At the first onset of the Indians, the American lines were broken and Shelby, who was there only as a volunteer Private, seized command, reformed the troops, and severely defeated the Indians.
In July he was appointed by the Virginia Committee of Safety to the position of Captain of a company of minute men. However, he was not called into service.
Governor Patrick Henry promoted Shelby to Captain and made him Commissary-General of the Virginia forces.
He attended the Long Island Treaty with the Cherokees, which was finalized at Fort Patrick Henry on July 20, 1777, at which his father was one of the Virginia commissioners.
Helped to provide supplies for the Continental Army and for the expedition projected by General McIntosh against Detroit and the Ohio Indians.
Provided boats for Clark’s Illinois campaign and collected and provided supplies upon his own personal credit for the successful campaign waged about the same time against the Chickamauga Indians.
In the spring he was elected as a member for Washington County of the Virginia legislature.
In the fall, Governor Thomas Jefferson made him a Major in the escort of guards for the commissioners appointed to run the western boundary line between Virginia and North Carolina. By the extension of that line, his residence was found to be within the limits of North Carolina.
He resigned his commission, but was at once appointed Colonel of Sullivan County by Governor Caswell.
Upon receiving news of the fall of Charleston on May 12th, he returned home to an urgent summons for help from Colonel Charles McDowell.
He organized a force and about July 25, he joined McDowell at the Cherokee Ford, South Carolina.
On July 30, Shelby captured the major Loyalist stronghold, Thicketty Fort (Fort Anderson), at the head of the Pacolet River. On August 8, his command successfully repulsed a party sent by Major Ferguson at the second Battle of Cedar Springs.
Upon receipt of the report of General Gates’ defeat at Camden on August 16, operations under McDowell and Shelby were halted.
On August 18, he was largely responsible for the victory at Battle of Musgrove’s Mill on the north side of the Enoree River.
As a result of a threatening message dispatched by Ferguson, Shelby held even greater resentment and determination and in consequence, with the assistance of John Sevier and others, he organized and conducted the expedition against Ferguson.
On October 7, they overwhelmingly defeated Ferguson’s combined Provincial and Loyalist force in the Battle of King’s Mountain.
Shelby has also been credited with the plan for the attack, which led to the Battle of the Cowpens on January 17.
In February, the legislature of North Carolina adopted resolutions of thanks to Shelby and his compatriots for their services at King’s Mountain.
Similar resolutions were adopted by the Continental Congress on November 13.
As a result of repeated uprisings by Cherokee Indians during the first half of the year, it was impractical to send forces from there to assist.
A treaty with the Cherokees was negotiated on July 20.
In October, upon receipt of a delayed message of appeal, Shelby raised 500 mounted riflemen and was accompanied by Colonel John Sevier in command of 200 more.
He marched to join Greene, by whose order they reported to General Marion on the Santee.
The joint command of Shelby and Colonel Hezekiah Maham, of the Carolina dragoons, contributed greatly to the capture of a strong British post at Fair Lawn, near Monck’s Corner, South Carolina on November 27.
Meanwhile, having been elected a member of the North Carolina legislature and having obtained a leave of absence, he attended the sessions in December.
Reelected to the North Carolina Assembly, he attended the legislative sessions held at Hillsboro in April.
He was appointed one of three commissioners to superintend the laying off of the land south of the Cumberland River allotted by North Carolina for military service in the Revolution.
Completed the laying off of the land south of the Cumberland River.
Appointed a Trustee of Transylvania Seminary (later Transylvania University).
Chairman of the convention of militia officers held at Danville on Nov. 7-8 (was also a member 1787-1789).
In January 1791, he was appointed a member of the Board of War, which was created by Congress for the District of Kentucky, and was charged with providing for the defense of the frontier settlements mounting punitive expeditions against the Indians.
For several years he served as High Sheriff of Lincoln County.
Member of the convention (April 2-19) which framed the first constitution of Kentucky.
In May he was elected Governor, taking office on June 4 and serving four years.
During his administration many events of importance to the infant commonwealth occurred, not the least being the part it took, under Shelby, in supporting Wayne’s campaigns against the Indians in the Northwest Territory.
At the close of his term, he declined reelection.
Retired from service.
Elected Governor of Kentucky a second time in August.
He actively participated in the planning and preparation for war.
With a sword presented to him by Henry Clay as voted by the legislature of North Carolina for his gallantry at King’s Mountain 32 years before, Shelby assembled and personally led 4,000 Kentucky volunteers to join General Harrison in the Northwest for the invasion of Canada, resulting in the defeat of the Loyalists on October 5 at the Battle of the Thames.
He was given the portfolio of War in March by President Monroe, but declined due to his age.
Isaac Shelby was awarded a gold medal by Congress on April 4 in recognition of his patriotic and heroic services.
Shelby and General Andrew Jackson were commissioned to hold a treaty with the Chickasaw Indians for the purchase of their lands west of the Tennessee River.
He was President of the first Kentucky Agricultural Society, formed at Lexington in 1818.
He was Chairman of the first Board of Trustees of Center College, founded in 1819 at Danville, Kentucky.
Isaac Shelby, Governor of Kentucky – Traveler’s Rest Burying Ground Plaque.
After his death on July 18, he was buried at his historic home, “Traveller’s Rest,” and a monument was erected over his grave by the state of Kentucky. Counties in nine states have been named Shelby in his honor. __________ An account of Governor Isaac Shelby by Samuel M. Wilson is as follows:
Isaac Shelby, Governor of Kentucky – Grave Marker.
“In person, Shelby was of a sturdy and well-proportioned frame, slightly above medium height, with strongly marked features and florid complexion. He had a hardy constitution capable of enduring protracted labor, great privations, and the utmost fatigue. Habitually dignified and impressive in bearing, he was, however, affable and winning. A soldier born to command, he nevertheless evidenced a high degree of political sagacity and executive ability. Numerous difficulties confronted him during his first administration, when the new government was passing through its formative stage, and much depended on the choice of officials then made by the executive. Shelby exhibited rare selective intelligence and an extraordinary mastery both of men and measures. Kentucky at this time experienced constant dread of the occlusion by Spain of the Mississippi River, and use was made of this situation by designing men to promote speculative ventures and political schemes hostile to the true interests of both Kentucky and the Union. Through it all, Shelby pursued a wise and moderate course which baffled the plots of all conspirators and held Kentucky firmly to her federal moorings.During his second administration, the pressure of the war with Great Britain fell with extraordinary and unremitting severity upon the state, and he showed himself not only a prudent and farseeing counselor, but an active, resourceful, and patriotic leader. His energy, determination, and perseverance knew no bounds, and his devotion to duty was unflagging.”
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Shelby, John Todd: KERR, C. ed. History of Kentucky, v. 3-5, 1922 #4.
History of Michigan; Moore, C.; v. 2-4; 1915; Shelby, William Read.
Family Data Collection – Births; Shelby, Alfred, 1765.
Family Data Collection – Individual Records; Shelby, Nancy, 1792.
1860 US Census; Shelby, John Warren, b. 1835; PO Lexington; Roll M653_365; Pg 0.
Shelby, Isaac Flournoy: KERR, C. ed. History of Kentucky, v. 3-5, 1922.
The Pioneer Mothers of America 1; Shelby, Susannah Hart; Green, H.C. and M.W.; 3 v., 1912.
American Biographical and Historical Dictionary; Shelby, Isaac; Allen (W); 1832.
Military Heroes of the War of 1812; Shelby, Evan; Peterson, C.J.; 1848.